So here is the problem

For some reason Yahoo only allows for 30 roster positions.

With 2 of each pos
6of
10 p
that brings us to 26 players and 4 bench spots. (does not include 2 utl)

I'm not a big fan of only having 4 bench spots, you all know I'm a prospect speculator and would love to have a deeper bench. So the question is 1. big starting rosters, shallow bench, or shallow starting rosters and deep bench.

Draft Order

Just to double check the draft order is:

Josh
Brian
Aaron
Justin
New Owner 1
New Owner 2

right?

and we gotta get JWest a trophy

2008 changes

Good to be back. I almost had to start playing Japaneese league fantasy to get my fix. I will try to hit most of JWest's questions in my ramblings.

I like 2 at every infield position. My question is stop there, or also have one IF, bringing total infielders to 11? ...but it goes to eleven...

After that I think I'm a little more prudent as far as line-up changes go. I think I prefer general OF as opposed to LF RF CF. I could be swayed on this, but maybe just 5 general OF. Same number of UTL as before. We only needed to nudge the number of starters a little so that not every starting line-up is basically equally jacked. I think the line-ups should do more to increase position scarcity (a la all those extra infield positions). More importantly, I don't think you want too many more SCORING players than we are dealing with. Larger groups hurt us in two ways: averages start to regress to a mean, and counting stats can get too spread out too fast. Both of these things can hurt the fun of the weekly scores and reduce the point of creating a really good team, as wierd as that sounds. I like the open P spots also, so lets's stick with 5 SP, 2 RP, and 3 P, unless you want to add a SP and/or RP to thin out the talent a little, as long as it doesn't hurt scoring.

On the flip side, I love the large bench idea. Why not? We keep the scoring fluid by increasing the number of scoring players by only a few (those extra IF's, maybe an OF or P here or there). We are sill waiver maniacs because we can speculate like crazy. And we are less frugal in trades, especially multi-player, lower-tier-player deals. JWest can hustle his brains out like we were a daily league, which i still do not want to be.

My only rule is that we figure it out in a way that JWest doesn't simply vaccum up every prospect possible taking the point out of all of this. Ah, it must be spring training, the smell of JWest paranoia is in the air. Anyway, the answer is finding the right size so that even he runs out of room and has to make tough choices.

As for scoring, we have to get rid of OPS, because it was redundant, but we should replace it, because the 8/7 scoring for hitters/pitches was money. Just pick a fun one. 2B's? I worry that hits or walks would again be redundant. Let me know.

Brian's pitchers stats are very different, and I think I like them. I subject W, L, SV, K, BAA, BB, ERA. Guys who give up HR's will still be punished with ERA, and ERA is a better fantasy stat than it is a real-world pitching tool. Everything else gets addressed with equal weight. I like whip, and K/BB, but they are covered without redundancy by K, BB, and BAA

So this year I say we experiment with the large bench idea. We were pretty close to perfect last year. I don't think drastic change is necessary anywhere else. Last year the waiver wire was not skimpy enough, and no one was worried about positionality. I think we have addresses this. Size of scoring lineup was not a problem, so let's only bump it up as much as necessary.

Let me know what you think about the IF, number of pitchers and OF's and the size of this big bench.

2008 Draft

Here is what i'm thinking the 2008 draft will work wtih our keeper system/

step 1: Prior to the draft everyone will submit their keeper lists to me.
step2: Once I have those lists I will email everyone with the people we cannotn draft
step 3: Once we have a league created in Yahoo, we go into our draft pre rankings and select everyone elses keepers and move them into the "never draft" list. This will ensure that none of us accidently pick someone elses keeper, or the computer doesnt if their is some sort of problem.

Welcome Back

Let's start talking about the 2008 season. These are just random thoughts I had at work today.

I think we all said we wanted to do 2 of each position

question 1: do we want 6 outfielders or 2lf 2rf 2cf?

question 2: how many pitchers do we want? 7sp and 4rp

question 3: what categories do we want Hitters: AVG/OBP/SLG/R/RBI/HR/SB

question 4: what categories do we want for pitchers?

question 5: How many roster spots do we want.

my thought is we have a very deep league, if were having 2 of each position plus 11 pitchers thats already 29 players....we should just go all out and have 35 to 40 players...this will mean less bargains on the waiver wire and encourage more trading amongst us.

Question 6: Scoring. Roto or Head to head, Daily transactions or weekly?


If you guys could post your comments we can figure this thing out.

because i still care, thats why

Roto Scores: 09/07

J West: 39 + 29 = 68 (wow)
Brian: 25 + 34 = 59
Josh: 28 + 26 = 54
Travis: 26 + 21 = 47
Aaron: 36 + 9 = 45
Jeff: 17 + 28 = 45

My first though is that h2h rocks. We look and act like real baseball teams, without the atlanta braves' "nice year, now beat the astros 3 outa 5" bullshit ending. it's fair for a league of 32 teams, but not for us.

Over 6 months, i love how a team like aaron's is still in 3rd. there are lots of ways to get "wins" other than leading all statistical catagories. i used to want to sell surplus stats and pick up what i needed as the year went on (roto style), but now i think it's cooler to be able to hang each week even if you have weak spots, instead of slowly falling behind. let's hope the Mariner's pull an Aaron and take the wild card from the "better roto team" (yanks).

Watch out boys, my team is on fire and, oh wait, damn, it doesn't count for shit.

let's resolve that for next year, by using the playoffs or eliminating them alltogether like aaron did in football. it's a crime to have wasted baseball. Plus, if things stay on course, it looks like the playoffs are gonna seperate the men from the boys after all. I still say that they should go (what if j west caught the injury bug the last two weeks and lost to me in the playoffs because he was undermaned. is that just the way it goes, or is that wack? (i vote for the latter)). an unlucky week shouldn't cost u the title; that's why they play football

Keeper System

Decision time, we need to come up with some sort of roster rule preventing people like me from picking up every single hot rookie the day the season ends in order to keep them. I was thinking only the players on your team on Monday (sept 10) are eligible for the keeper system. Next year, we should probably make the date before the playoffs start, but I dropped the ball on that one.

Just to make some things clear:

We can still make roster moves after monday, we just can't keep anyone we don't have on our Monday roster for next year...so Josh, as much as it pains me, you can have Pence, but I'm keeping Hughes.

I think we decided that the number will be 5.

At the end of the year i will give everyone a list of their team and where their players finished according to "Yahoo Rank" not O Rank. This list will show every player on your team and what round draft pick they are worth.

If you want to keep a player worth a 1st round pick, you have to draft him with your first round pick.

If you want to keep two 3rd round players, you have to draft one in the 3rd round, and one in the 2nd round..you can only keep one player that is worth a 1st round pick. This keeps the distribution of elite talent flowing better.