Roto Scores: 09/07
J West: 39 + 29 = 68 (wow)
Brian: 25 + 34 = 59
Josh: 28 + 26 = 54
Travis: 26 + 21 = 47
Aaron: 36 + 9 = 45
Jeff: 17 + 28 = 45
My first though is that h2h rocks. We look and act like real baseball teams, without the atlanta braves' "nice year, now beat the astros 3 outa 5" bullshit ending. it's fair for a league of 32 teams, but not for us.
Over 6 months, i love how a team like aaron's is still in 3rd. there are lots of ways to get "wins" other than leading all statistical catagories. i used to want to sell surplus stats and pick up what i needed as the year went on (roto style), but now i think it's cooler to be able to hang each week even if you have weak spots, instead of slowly falling behind. let's hope the Mariner's pull an Aaron and take the wild card from the "better roto team" (yanks).
Watch out boys, my team is on fire and, oh wait, damn, it doesn't count for shit.
let's resolve that for next year, by using the playoffs or eliminating them alltogether like aaron did in football. it's a crime to have wasted baseball. Plus, if things stay on course, it looks like the playoffs are gonna seperate the men from the boys after all. I still say that they should go (what if j west caught the injury bug the last two weeks and lost to me in the playoffs because he was undermaned. is that just the way it goes, or is that wack? (i vote for the latter)). an unlucky week shouldn't cost u the title; that's why they play football
Friday, September 7, 2007
Tuesday, September 4, 2007
Keeper System
Decision time, we need to come up with some sort of roster rule preventing people like me from picking up every single hot rookie the day the season ends in order to keep them. I was thinking only the players on your team on Monday (sept 10) are eligible for the keeper system. Next year, we should probably make the date before the playoffs start, but I dropped the ball on that one.
Just to make some things clear:
We can still make roster moves after monday, we just can't keep anyone we don't have on our Monday roster for next year...so Josh, as much as it pains me, you can have Pence, but I'm keeping Hughes.
I think we decided that the number will be 5.
At the end of the year i will give everyone a list of their team and where their players finished according to "Yahoo Rank" not O Rank. This list will show every player on your team and what round draft pick they are worth.
If you want to keep a player worth a 1st round pick, you have to draft him with your first round pick.
If you want to keep two 3rd round players, you have to draft one in the 3rd round, and one in the 2nd round..you can only keep one player that is worth a 1st round pick. This keeps the distribution of elite talent flowing better.
Just to make some things clear:
We can still make roster moves after monday, we just can't keep anyone we don't have on our Monday roster for next year...so Josh, as much as it pains me, you can have Pence, but I'm keeping Hughes.
I think we decided that the number will be 5.
At the end of the year i will give everyone a list of their team and where their players finished according to "Yahoo Rank" not O Rank. This list will show every player on your team and what round draft pick they are worth.
If you want to keep a player worth a 1st round pick, you have to draft him with your first round pick.
If you want to keep two 3rd round players, you have to draft one in the 3rd round, and one in the 2nd round..you can only keep one player that is worth a 1st round pick. This keeps the distribution of elite talent flowing better.
Friday, August 24, 2007
Roto Scores
JWest is pulling away with this thing in all formats. No big changes; Brian's offense dropped, as did mine. Jeff got more power, I jumped 2 spots up in ERA, and JWest is climbing in steals.
Justin: 67
Brian: 57
Josh: 53
Jeff: 49
Aaron: 45
Travis: 44
Justin: 67
Brian: 57
Josh: 53
Jeff: 49
Aaron: 45
Travis: 44
Thursday, August 23, 2007
using the playoffs
I may have figured out a way to use the last 3 weeks of the season, and still give the crown to the regular season champ. After next week, we post the w/l totals on the bloog. The 1 and 2 seeds (JWest and Aaron right now) get a bye, so let's give them the same score for the week. That way all 6 of us get a score that week, without making the top two seeds play each other, which would be dumb. Week 2 of the playoffs is easy because all 6 teams play, and the last week 2 teams don't play, so we'll figure something out, even if we have to score it ourselves. This way we use the playoff format but still just tack on w's and l's.
If you guys like this, all we have to agree on is what score to give the top 2 seeds. It should be a reward, but nothing over the top; it should mostly just guarentee they don't lose points. 8-7, maybe even 9-6. (Two of the other teams should score at least 8 points that week too, although we have seen someone win with 6-7 points). How about 8-6-1.
Maybe the tourney champ gets a 5 win bonus for winnng it all. Let me know what you think.
If you guys like this, all we have to agree on is what score to give the top 2 seeds. It should be a reward, but nothing over the top; it should mostly just guarentee they don't lose points. 8-7, maybe even 9-6. (Two of the other teams should score at least 8 points that week too, although we have seen someone win with 6-7 points). How about 8-6-1.
Maybe the tourney champ gets a 5 win bonus for winnng it all. Let me know what you think.
Wednesday, August 22, 2007
J.West 3.0 (Keeper System)
Here is how my keeper system works, even though Josh probably laid it out in one paragraph far better then I can.
At the end of the year we use some sort of player rankings based on performance (either yahoo rankings, or espn player rater) and then we divide the players up by 6s. Thus the players who are ranked 1-6 = a first round pick players 7-12 are worth a 2nd round pick, ETC...
At the end of the year, you can keep 5 players, no salary cap or anything like that. The only catch is that you can only keep one 1st rounder. If you have two 2nd rounders you want to keep, you can keep both of them, only you have to take one of them with your 1st round pick.
This continues throughout the draft, if you have two 4th rounders you want to keep, you can keep them, but you have to take one of them in the 3rd round and the other in the 4th round.
Like I said in my post yesterday, don't stress if you have 2 guys worth 1st round picks, as you can see just because a player is a 1st rounder this year does not mean he will be next year.
The advantage of this system is it will give different managers different philosophies when it comes to keepers. For example Aaron might decide to keep more of his elite talent, Like Reyes, Wright and Ichiro in the first three rounds, where as I'm going to keep some of my injured or under preforming players like Sheets (19th round) Atkins (12th) Pujols (4th).
Sorry this post was so long, any questions please post them and we can work them out.
At the end of the year we use some sort of player rankings based on performance (either yahoo rankings, or espn player rater) and then we divide the players up by 6s. Thus the players who are ranked 1-6 = a first round pick players 7-12 are worth a 2nd round pick, ETC...
At the end of the year, you can keep 5 players, no salary cap or anything like that. The only catch is that you can only keep one 1st rounder. If you have two 2nd rounders you want to keep, you can keep both of them, only you have to take one of them with your 1st round pick.
This continues throughout the draft, if you have two 4th rounders you want to keep, you can keep them, but you have to take one of them in the 3rd round and the other in the 4th round.
Like I said in my post yesterday, don't stress if you have 2 guys worth 1st round picks, as you can see just because a player is a 1st rounder this year does not mean he will be next year.
The advantage of this system is it will give different managers different philosophies when it comes to keepers. For example Aaron might decide to keep more of his elite talent, Like Reyes, Wright and Ichiro in the first three rounds, where as I'm going to keep some of my injured or under preforming players like Sheets (19th round) Atkins (12th) Pujols (4th).
Sorry this post was so long, any questions please post them and we can work them out.
Housekeeping
Some things to tie up as the season wears down. We need to take some votes, and hopefully all 6 of us check the bloog. get the word out, esp to jeff, who i have never seen on the bloog:
1) vote for JWest's keeper system.
in case you've missed the boat, his system takes the final rankings from this year, breaks the guys into groups of 6 to denote their round, and lets you keep up to 5 of your guys, in the round in which they are designated. If you want to take 2 guys from the same round, you have to use the pick from the previous round. This means that if you have 2 guys projected in the first round, you can only keep one of them. JWest's post will tell you more.
2) buy the trophy
i think aaron is in charge of this. the bats were cheap enough that we think (and we can vote) that we can get a new one each year, rather than pass the trophy from year to year. this leads to the next topic...
3) cleaning up the end of the year mess
i may be the only one who thinks this is a problem. we have casually talked about giving the title to the regular season champ, as a h2h league with only 6 teams has a chance for a pretty random playoffs. i agree, that with 10-12 teams, our ranks would be more significant, not everyone would get into the playoffs, and the playoffs would be less up to chance. however, i don't think we can do this without a unanimous vote. it's bad form to change the rules this late unless everyone is onboard. in the long run, with a small league, we really should try to override the playoffs and just keep normal score all the way until the end. any braves fan will tell u the playoffs are shit anyway; we just have to be organized as a league.
4) football draft
again, get up with aaron, soon
1) vote for JWest's keeper system.
in case you've missed the boat, his system takes the final rankings from this year, breaks the guys into groups of 6 to denote their round, and lets you keep up to 5 of your guys, in the round in which they are designated. If you want to take 2 guys from the same round, you have to use the pick from the previous round. This means that if you have 2 guys projected in the first round, you can only keep one of them. JWest's post will tell you more.
2) buy the trophy
i think aaron is in charge of this. the bats were cheap enough that we think (and we can vote) that we can get a new one each year, rather than pass the trophy from year to year. this leads to the next topic...
3) cleaning up the end of the year mess
i may be the only one who thinks this is a problem. we have casually talked about giving the title to the regular season champ, as a h2h league with only 6 teams has a chance for a pretty random playoffs. i agree, that with 10-12 teams, our ranks would be more significant, not everyone would get into the playoffs, and the playoffs would be less up to chance. however, i don't think we can do this without a unanimous vote. it's bad form to change the rules this late unless everyone is onboard. in the long run, with a small league, we really should try to override the playoffs and just keep normal score all the way until the end. any braves fan will tell u the playoffs are shit anyway; we just have to be organized as a league.
4) football draft
again, get up with aaron, soon
Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Preview to my Keeper System
In order to preview my keeper system(which I hope to roll out tomorrow) (which I suspect some might not like because you wont be able to keep as many elite players as you would like) lets take a look back at this years first two rounds of the draft, and how they rank up up to this point.
ROUND 1
1. Pujols - 15
2. Soriano - 71
3. Reyes -6
4. Utley - 23
5. Santana - 10
6. A-Rod - 1
ROUND 2
7. Crawford - 22
8. Howard - 36
9. Ortiz - 30
10. Wright - 8
11. Vlad - 27
12. M.Cab - 11
So as you can see only 2 of the players drafted in the first round are playing like first rounders this year. And only two second rounders are playing like 2nd rounders this year. So taking a keeper out of the "elite" players is just as much a gamble as anyone else. I really think the value to a keeper league is to be had in this years under preforming players.
For example, I would much rather gamble on Soriano and Howard as keepers this year (while their stock is low) then I would say keep Maglio Ordoniez.
ROUND 1
1. Pujols - 15
2. Soriano - 71
3. Reyes -6
4. Utley - 23
5. Santana - 10
6. A-Rod - 1
ROUND 2
7. Crawford - 22
8. Howard - 36
9. Ortiz - 30
10. Wright - 8
11. Vlad - 27
12. M.Cab - 11
So as you can see only 2 of the players drafted in the first round are playing like first rounders this year. And only two second rounders are playing like 2nd rounders this year. So taking a keeper out of the "elite" players is just as much a gamble as anyone else. I really think the value to a keeper league is to be had in this years under preforming players.
For example, I would much rather gamble on Soriano and Howard as keepers this year (while their stock is low) then I would say keep Maglio Ordoniez.
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