2008 Draft

Here is what i'm thinking the 2008 draft will work wtih our keeper system/

step 1: Prior to the draft everyone will submit their keeper lists to me.
step2: Once I have those lists I will email everyone with the people we cannotn draft
step 3: Once we have a league created in Yahoo, we go into our draft pre rankings and select everyone elses keepers and move them into the "never draft" list. This will ensure that none of us accidently pick someone elses keeper, or the computer doesnt if their is some sort of problem.

Welcome Back

Let's start talking about the 2008 season. These are just random thoughts I had at work today.

I think we all said we wanted to do 2 of each position

question 1: do we want 6 outfielders or 2lf 2rf 2cf?

question 2: how many pitchers do we want? 7sp and 4rp

question 3: what categories do we want Hitters: AVG/OBP/SLG/R/RBI/HR/SB

question 4: what categories do we want for pitchers?

question 5: How many roster spots do we want.

my thought is we have a very deep league, if were having 2 of each position plus 11 pitchers thats already 29 players....we should just go all out and have 35 to 40 players...this will mean less bargains on the waiver wire and encourage more trading amongst us.

Question 6: Scoring. Roto or Head to head, Daily transactions or weekly?


If you guys could post your comments we can figure this thing out.

because i still care, thats why

Roto Scores: 09/07

J West: 39 + 29 = 68 (wow)
Brian: 25 + 34 = 59
Josh: 28 + 26 = 54
Travis: 26 + 21 = 47
Aaron: 36 + 9 = 45
Jeff: 17 + 28 = 45

My first though is that h2h rocks. We look and act like real baseball teams, without the atlanta braves' "nice year, now beat the astros 3 outa 5" bullshit ending. it's fair for a league of 32 teams, but not for us.

Over 6 months, i love how a team like aaron's is still in 3rd. there are lots of ways to get "wins" other than leading all statistical catagories. i used to want to sell surplus stats and pick up what i needed as the year went on (roto style), but now i think it's cooler to be able to hang each week even if you have weak spots, instead of slowly falling behind. let's hope the Mariner's pull an Aaron and take the wild card from the "better roto team" (yanks).

Watch out boys, my team is on fire and, oh wait, damn, it doesn't count for shit.

let's resolve that for next year, by using the playoffs or eliminating them alltogether like aaron did in football. it's a crime to have wasted baseball. Plus, if things stay on course, it looks like the playoffs are gonna seperate the men from the boys after all. I still say that they should go (what if j west caught the injury bug the last two weeks and lost to me in the playoffs because he was undermaned. is that just the way it goes, or is that wack? (i vote for the latter)). an unlucky week shouldn't cost u the title; that's why they play football

Keeper System

Decision time, we need to come up with some sort of roster rule preventing people like me from picking up every single hot rookie the day the season ends in order to keep them. I was thinking only the players on your team on Monday (sept 10) are eligible for the keeper system. Next year, we should probably make the date before the playoffs start, but I dropped the ball on that one.

Just to make some things clear:

We can still make roster moves after monday, we just can't keep anyone we don't have on our Monday roster for next year...so Josh, as much as it pains me, you can have Pence, but I'm keeping Hughes.

I think we decided that the number will be 5.

At the end of the year i will give everyone a list of their team and where their players finished according to "Yahoo Rank" not O Rank. This list will show every player on your team and what round draft pick they are worth.

If you want to keep a player worth a 1st round pick, you have to draft him with your first round pick.

If you want to keep two 3rd round players, you have to draft one in the 3rd round, and one in the 2nd round..you can only keep one player that is worth a 1st round pick. This keeps the distribution of elite talent flowing better.

Roto Scores

JWest is pulling away with this thing in all formats. No big changes; Brian's offense dropped, as did mine. Jeff got more power, I jumped 2 spots up in ERA, and JWest is climbing in steals.

Justin: 67
Brian: 57
Josh: 53
Jeff: 49
Aaron: 45
Travis: 44

using the playoffs

I may have figured out a way to use the last 3 weeks of the season, and still give the crown to the regular season champ. After next week, we post the w/l totals on the bloog. The 1 and 2 seeds (JWest and Aaron right now) get a bye, so let's give them the same score for the week. That way all 6 of us get a score that week, without making the top two seeds play each other, which would be dumb. Week 2 of the playoffs is easy because all 6 teams play, and the last week 2 teams don't play, so we'll figure something out, even if we have to score it ourselves. This way we use the playoff format but still just tack on w's and l's.

If you guys like this, all we have to agree on is what score to give the top 2 seeds. It should be a reward, but nothing over the top; it should mostly just guarentee they don't lose points. 8-7, maybe even 9-6. (Two of the other teams should score at least 8 points that week too, although we have seen someone win with 6-7 points). How about 8-6-1.

Maybe the tourney champ gets a 5 win bonus for winnng it all. Let me know what you think.

J.West 3.0 (Keeper System)

Here is how my keeper system works, even though Josh probably laid it out in one paragraph far better then I can.

At the end of the year we use some sort of player rankings based on performance (either yahoo rankings, or espn player rater) and then we divide the players up by 6s. Thus the players who are ranked 1-6 = a first round pick players 7-12 are worth a 2nd round pick, ETC...

At the end of the year, you can keep 5 players, no salary cap or anything like that. The only catch is that you can only keep one 1st rounder. If you have two 2nd rounders you want to keep, you can keep both of them, only you have to take one of them with your 1st round pick.

This continues throughout the draft, if you have two 4th rounders you want to keep, you can keep them, but you have to take one of them in the 3rd round and the other in the 4th round.

Like I said in my post yesterday, don't stress if you have 2 guys worth 1st round picks, as you can see just because a player is a 1st rounder this year does not mean he will be next year.

The advantage of this system is it will give different managers different philosophies when it comes to keepers. For example Aaron might decide to keep more of his elite talent, Like Reyes, Wright and Ichiro in the first three rounds, where as I'm going to keep some of my injured or under preforming players like Sheets (19th round) Atkins (12th) Pujols (4th).

Sorry this post was so long, any questions please post them and we can work them out.